According to the Sainty-genealogy, that I downloaded from Wikipedia, Guy Stair Sainty is the son of Christopher Lawrence Sainty. Sainty grew up in the working class streets of Swallowfield Slough Road, Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England. His family lived in the Sewage Works, Old Windsor, Berkshire. Sainty's father made money as a ragpicker by buying "antiques" in England and selling these in the United States. The profile statements reveal Sainty's true identity.
On the internet, I found the following witness statement under the pseudonym "snakecharmer007" about Guy Stair Sainty.
MR GUY STAIR SAINTY will not remember me, but I do remember him as a self important pompous young man of humble origin, yet desperate to climb the social ladder from the very bottom to the very top.
He showed signs of delusions of grandeur, much to the amusement of fellow onlookers in SMOM who (though many have since died) still peer down the ladder at him, stuck someway below the rungs of the first quarter! That is where he will remain, he will certainly never be admitted to SMOM (the scandal of the headed paper was enough alone!). Some of the British Association SMOM paper disappeared. On paper a statement appeared saying that SMOM did not recognise the Constantinian Order of the Duke of Castro but the Duke is a very senior member of SMOM, with the highest rank of Bailiff Grand Cross of honour and Devotion and the Cross of Profession, of which the only other holder is the King of Spain.
hbbrown49 made an excellent posting in this forum on Wed, Jun 27 2001 5:37 pm headed Canonising Stair Sainty, Which summed the man up to a tee, at least the young Sainy I had encountered so many years before. He observed ... an arrogant and pompous ass, ill-mannered, a hater and mocker, incapable of argument, ignorant of the wider Christian world, a lover of braying, disliked by others, even members of his own Orders, many of whom sip champagne with him at the reception, but then, fearful of provoking him, leave to snicker quietly in the next room. Sainty'schivalric "friends" keep him at a distance because they know that he is an intolerant scoffer, one who laughs at the efforts of others and who has the gall to taunt his own "friends" when they indulge in Orders he hates.
Mr Sainty; Mr Stair-Sainty; "Baron" Guy Stair de Carnazet Sainty; "His Excellency" or "Ecc.mo. Sr." "Don"!!! Guy Stair Sainty, as he been variously described, is indeed an expert on false Orders.
He himself founded the absurd Confederation of Christian Chivalry with Fernando Crociani. Crociani's current position as knight of SMOM will not be helped by his links to Mr Sainty or the fact that some time ago, the two of them were associated with diplomas which mysteriouslyappeared bearing the name of Sainy, but elevated to the style of Baron!
Mr Sainty's close associate, Fernando Crociani, like Mr Sainty has been the beneficiary of marriage annulments, in the case of the later, two, annulled by the Sacra Rota. The second to a pianist resulting in considerable scandal, well known in both Rome and in Lazio. Mr Crocianiuses the style of Professor, Count and Noble, but it is not known what the origins of these styles are. It is only known that he is an employee of the "Confcommercio" of Roma, the merchants trade-union.
Mr Sainty's partner Mr Crociani was admitted in the SMOM, as knight of grace and devotion (100 years of nobility) in 1983. But recently the heraldry commission of the Rome Grand Priorat SMOM began re-examining his nobility evidences after discovering that he - even if his last name is CROCIANI - altered his anagraphical documents, in order to attach his short genealogy to the family named CRUCIANI, which is properly noble.
Mr Crociani is also linked to the neofascist movement "Ordine Nuovo" http://www.ctv.es/USERS/aje/octubre04.htm on whose website members are seen giving nazi style salutes and seated under posters promoting their counterpart M. le Penn, from France, which is also now Mr Sainty's country of residence.
At the time of his close collaboration with Mr Crociani, as a young man, Sainty was also known to Luciano Pelliciondi.
Pelliciondi never married and was never accused of the slightest indiscretion with a woman. Fond of the company of young males, the nineteen year old Sainty appears to have had an intimate enough friendship with Pelliciondi for him to have been invested (and to have accepted) the totally false Order of S. Giorgio in Carinzia. Whilst it is unusual for a boy of this age to be invested in any order, false or otherwise, he nevertheless had qualities (which had been hidden from the rest of us at the time) to impress Pelliciondi sufficiently for him to be granted the rank of Grand Officer. In the International Herald Tribune in the Services section under ARISTOCRAT NOBILITY and Titles, features an advertisement offering to sell titles and nobility. The reply was the name and address of Mr Guy Stair Sainty. How is this?
The comic Coat of Arms Mr Sainty uses today are not the ones he was born with, they are his own creation. The Granting of arms by the King of Arms of Margud de la Floresta to Mr Sainty is quite impossible. The power to issue arms was restricted to cities or towns, not individuals. If I am not mistaken the Spanish State Council (Supreme Court) said in 1995 that arms could not be issued in this way to private persons. It was ruled that this power never existed and as a consequence these arms cannot be used.
The arms are quite absurd, they use the mantle of a duke, although I have only seen Mr Sainty falsely elevated to the rank of Count. The arms feature some orders of which Mr Sainty is a low ranking member, none are of the rank of Grand Cross. A strange combination with the ducal mantle.
Mr Sainty is no stranger to denouncing people but then claiming that he was wrong. Mr Sainty denounced and then grovelled to and fully accepted the silly claim of the so-called MacCarthy Mor, Prince of Desmond. In a letter of 12 June 1997. He stated... I full and unreservedly accept that you have established your right to the title of MacCarthy Mor, and the tradition and style of Prince of Desmond.....with all the surviving rights that such title implies.... I want to make it clear that any sentiments to the contrary that may be attributed to me in any communication bearing my signature or elsewhere do not reflect my true opinion.
In the Constantinian Order the Grand master is said to be fed up with Sainty and looking for an excuse to dump him. It will not be a shock if he is gone soon, just awaiting the appropriate excuse.
It is known that Sainty announced the marriage of Don Carlos's son, Prince Don Pedro, without permission and that he made a real scandal when he tried to contact the Prince Antonio in order to manoeuvre the Grand Majestry of the Constantinian Order his way. He was said to have claimed that Don Carlos would renounce everything and cease to be Duke of Calabria. Prince Antonio refused and Don Carlo was said to be enraged by this ungentlemanly plot.
Mr Sainty describes himself as a scholar, but to the best of my knowledge has, or had no academic qualifications? He needs to be treated with a large pinch of salt. he is a mocker and spiteful individual who actions and words betray the fact that he cannot be taken seriously.
The limits to which Mr Sainty will go to be near those of rank knows no bounds, even association with the notorious sorceress Carima (well known trickster) and her drunk son is not too much to get close to the King Kigeli of Rwanda-Urundi at the "ballo dei cento e non più cento",http://www.ancestraltraditions.org/ballocento2005/carima.htmEyewitness memories, such as these, are often critical sources of information for investigations. In this case, it shows that Sainty might suffer from antisocial personality disorder and what’s called – “unethical thinking.” Sainty will very rarely show any remorse for their actions, or empathy towards others. Sainty’s complete failure to adhere to acceptable social standards coupled with a lack of self-control leads to a life filled with confrontations.
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